Beskrivelse: The coolest bird in the Desert...
Pander's Ground Jay is one of the most sought-after birds in Central Asia, and when you have seen it its easy to understand why its so desired. Its charming! Either approachable or very shy.
To find it you need the right habitat - sand dunes and sparsely vegetation. Usually found singly or in pairs on ground where it feeds on lizards, beetles and other goodies.
This bird were observed in Turkmenistan where its still fairly common in the right habitat, whereas the PGJ in Kazakhstan ssp iliensis has become EXTREMLY rare.
Recently we spend three days searching south of Lake Balkash in Kazakhstan - prime habitats and on former places where we have seen it. BUT - no birds were found... There were some tracks (one of the most important ways finding PGJ), but - despite hours of searching we never found them. Later I talked with a Kazakh biologist who spends his time studying the Kazakh PGJ, and he had found only ONE nest this year (2013)and had been on ten expeditions since January; so surely it looks very dark for this fantastic bird. Until 1991 it was fairly common in the region, but the population have decreased - I would even use the expression, that the population have crashed. The iliensis-population in Kazakhstan might be extinct very soon and those danes that have birded with me in Kazakhstan might be one of the last westernes that have seen the Kazakh PGJ.
In Tukmenistan (and Uzbekistan) its luckily not that bleak - and its still possible to get excellent views being on the right spot at the right time. Its a resident - tough bird, and usually it moves around after the breeding season.
Ill go and look for it again later in autumn and winter 2013/2014 - both in Kazakhstan and in Turkmenistan (participating in updating the IBAs in Central Asia).
I can surely recommand every birder to visit the Central Asian deserts - its not solely PGJ that is attractive; the desert is a wonderful and extremely interesting habitat.
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2013-05-31Podoces panderiPander's Ground Jay
Beskrivelse: The coolest bird in the Desert...
Pander's Ground Jay is one of the most sought-after birds in Central Asia, and when you have seen it its easy to understand why its so desired. Its charming! Either approachable or very shy.
To find it you need the right habitat - sand dunes and sparsely vegetation. Usually found singly or in pairs on ground where it feeds on lizards, beetles and other goodies.
This bird were observed in Turkmenistan where its still fairly common in the right habitat, whereas the PGJ in Kazakhstan ssp iliensis has become EXTREMLY rare.
Recently we spend three days searching south of Lake Balkash in Kazakhstan - prime habitats and on former places where we have seen it. BUT - no birds were found... There were some tracks (one of the most important ways finding PGJ), but - despite hours of searching we never found them. Later I talked with a Kazakh biologist who spends his time studying the Kazakh PGJ, and he had found only ONE nest this year (2013)and had been on ten expeditions since January; so surely it looks very dark for this fantastic bird. Until 1991 it was fairly common in the region, but the population have decreased - I would even use the expression, that the population have crashed. The iliensis-population in Kazakhstan might be extinct very soon and those danes that have birded with me in Kazakhstan might be one of the last westernes that have seen the Kazakh PGJ.
In Tukmenistan (and Uzbekistan) its luckily not that bleak - and its still possible to get excellent views being on the right spot at the right time. Its a resident - tough bird, and usually it moves around after the breeding season.
Ill go and look for it again later in autumn and winter 2013/2014 - both in Kazakhstan and in Turkmenistan (participating in updating the IBAs in Central Asia).
I can surely recommand every birder to visit the Central Asian deserts - its not solely PGJ that is attractive; the desert is a wonderful and extremely interesting habitat.
Uploadet 2013-06-09
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2013-06-09Podoces panderiPander's Ground Jay
Hi
Tau's question made me look up a few facts in The bird collectors by Barbara and Richard Mearns, Academic Press 1998, as well as other sources.
Pander's Ground Jay (Podoces panderi) was named after Christian Heinrich von Pander (1794-1865). Pander was a German-Baltic embryologist, zoologist, geologist who contributed considerably to all these sciences. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Heinrich_Pander. Podoces panderi was described in 1821 by Johann Gotthelf Fischer von Waldheim (1771-1853) another zoologist with an interest in geology. Waldheim founded the Moscow Society of Naturalists while Pander was a member of the St. Petersburg Academy of Sciences.
The next "ground jay" to be discovered was the Dingy Chough-Thrush (Podoces humilis) later known as Hume's Ground Jay and since 2003 moved to the tit family (Paridae) as Hume's Ground-tit (Pseudopodoces humilis). It was discovered by the 1870 British expedition from Lahore across the Karakoram to Yarkand and back. The species was described the following year by one of the founders of Indian ornithology Allan Octavian Hume (1829-1912). A bit further down the northern slope of the mountains, the expedition encountered another new species which Hume, in the same paper, described under the name of Henderson's Chough-Thrush (Podoces hendersoni); this time they had found a true ground jay. George Henderson (1837-1929) was the expedition's medical officer and co-authored with A.O. Hume the book Lahore to Yarkand, London 1873.
1873-1874 a second expedition from British India to Yarkand and back was carried out and one of the expedition members, Captain John Biddulph (1840-1921), found near Maralbashi, Xinjiang a new species of ground jay which Hume in 1874 named Podoces biddulphi. After returning from the expedition, Biddulph travelled extensively in the western Himalayas collecting birds and serving as a spy for the British Government.
Theodor Dmitrievich Pleske (1858-1932) ornithologist and entomologist, was curator of birds, later director of the Zoological Museum of the Academy of Sciences, St. Petersburg. The zoologist Nikolai Alekseyvich Zarudny (1859-1919) described and named after him Pleske's Ground Jay (Podoces pleskei) in 1896. Zarudny led several expeditions to the Caspian region and Persia and collected more than 3.000 specimens of birds.
Morten
Hi Morten. Thank you very much for researching the stories behind these pioneers. Very interesting indeed, makes my fantasy wander back in time. Thanks.......Tau
Splendid information, Morten.
We can hardly imagine tenting and hardships in those days, but admittedly I understand their drive:
Elucidating 'unknown' Birds/avifauna.
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And marvellous to experience Pander's' stance and physiognomy
in clean, inhospitable?, Mars-like environment !
Thx M. & M.! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Yours C.
Dear Morten, thanks for great research. Very welcomed and interesting. Thanks Carsten for kind comments.
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Hilsen fra en pragtfuld dag med tasken fuld af centralasiatiske bjergfugle
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Beskrivelse: En af de helt store højdepunkter på en yderst vellykket KAKI09 tur. Fuglen sad pludselig eksponeret i flere minutter, men hoppede derefter ned i ørkensandet og var som sunket i jorden. Blot 4 af turens deltagere så fuglen og MWA kunne igen leve op til tilnavnet "anti-pander"...
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2009-12-23Podoces panderi ilensisPander's Ground Jay
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Titel: Den yderst sjældne østlige type af Pander's Ground Jay (ssp. ilyensis?)
Beskrivelse: Fuglen, her en juv uden sort brystplet, tilhører den meget fåtallige, isolerede østlige bestand, der muligvis er en anden race (ilyensis) end den mere udbredte form øst for det Kaspiske Hav (transcaspius)(se Magde and Burn: "Crows and Jays" (Helm identification Guides)). 2 ungfugle sås en overgang sammen. Traditionelt er Ground Jays placeret i tilknytning til kragefuglene, men nyere forskning tyder måske på et slægtskab med mejser !!
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2007-08-01Podoces panderi ilensisPander's Ground Jay
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Titel: Den yderst sjældne østlige type af Pander's Ground Jay (ssp. ilyensis?)
Beskrivelse: Fuglen, her en juv uden sort brystplet, tilhører den meget fåtallige, isolerede østlige bestand, der muligvis er en anden race (ilyensis) end den mere udbredte form øst for det Kaspiske Hav (transcaspius)(se Magde and Burn: "Crows and Jays" (Helm identification Guides)). 2 ungfugle sås en overgang sammen. Traditionelt er Ground Jays placeret i tilknytning til kragefuglene, men nyere forskning tyder måske på et slægtskab med mejser !!
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2007-08-01Podoces panderi ilensisPander's Ground Jay
En korrektion til bemærkningen om systematikken givet tiltilknytning til det fine billede: De fire arter af Ground Jays af slægten Podoces er stadig solidt lejret blandt kragefuglene - og har de vist sig at have nærmeste slægtninge i to af Afrikas virkelige specialiteter: Pia-piac og Stresemann's bush-crow. Den tilknytningen til mejser - som Per refererer til - drejer sig alene om den femte art, der tidligere gik under navnet Hume's Ground Jay (Pseudopodoces humilis). Modsat Podoces-arterne i Centralasiens ørkener er det en højlandsart i og omkring Tibet. Fra at været verdens mindste kragefugl er den blevet flyttet og regnes nu som verdens største mejse. Et karriereskifte der vil noget!
Hej Uffe
Tak for din korrektion angående de nyere slægtskabsforhold inden for Ground Jays / Hume's Groundpecker. Det er rart at få det helt på plads. Jeg kunne også bedre forestille mig Groundpeckeren som en mejse frem for de store Ground Jays, som mere minder om Skovskader både på jorden og i flugt
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